Grand looked at the photo. “No! Why are you showing me that?”
“Because that seems to be what happens to people in Junior’s life. They seem to end up dead.”
“I have nothing to do with any of it. I didn’t kill anyone.” Grand started to tremble and it looked as if he was going to cry.
“What’s so important about the Collins property and adjoining ones? Even where the new construction of the police and fire training buildings is? What’s there?”
“I don’t know what you mean.”
“What’s so important or valuable that anyone connected to those properties ends up dead?” she said. “What is it?”
“I’m telling you, Detective, I… don’t…know…”
“Think really hard. What would make Junior want to kill? What would make him not want anyone on those properties?”
“I just don’t know…”
Katie took a moment to regroup. “How would you describe Junior?”
“What do you mean?”
“You know, how would you describe him? If you’ve known him since you were kids… what is he like?”
“He’s tough. Doesn’t like to lose and you never want to upstage or control the situation.”
“I see. So he’s a bully and manipulative.”
“He’s been in trouble for burglaries, I think. He always talked about the next big thing. Not having a regular job made him easy to hide and then when he needed money he would rob some store or person.”
“Did you know that the bodies of Mrs. Collins and her daughter, as well as Ian Griffin Sr., were found at your jobsite?”
“What?”
“Did you know that?”
“No… I don’t know what you mean.”
Katie decided to push hard to find out if Grand knew anyone who was part of the original murders besides Mr. Collins.
“When you were kids, did you see those bodies or help bury Mrs. Collins and Misty?” she said. “Be very careful how you answer this.”
“No.”
“You weren’t there playing with the Young brothers and Junior?”
“Well, yeah, we would play together,” said Grand.
“And?”
“I don’t know.”
“You didn’t witness Mr. Collins kill his wife and child?”
“N-nooo.”
“Did you hear about it from Junior or the Young brothers?”
“Well…”
