GS:Point taken.Has it gotten easier to deal with the scrutiny and, to be blunt, the online hate as an out couple in the press and being more of your authentic self?
TM:I think hate in any form is hard, and, from my perspective, the more accepting society becomes of queer relationships, the louder the hate gets. The real difference is how we react to it. We used to care what other people thought or what we might lose by being together.
GS:And now?
DM:Now we don’t give a flying fuck. Can I say fuck?
GS:You just did. Twice. And in every interview we’ve ever had.
TM:What Drew means is we realized we don’t need permission to be who we are. I don’t want someone else’s hate to take up any space inside me because it would be less that I had for my kids and husband. When I spent a week wondering if I’d already lived all the moments with my most important person and if I’d already said the last words he’d ever hear, it put things in perspective. I thought a lot about the times I didn’t kiss him when I wanted to or when I held off on showing him affection when other people were around. Those lost moments were far more fucking painful than someone else’s hate.
DM to TM:Oooh, you said fuck too.
TM:Just for you, baby.
GS:So it doesn’t get easier. You just get better at ignoring it.
DM:Oh, we know it’s there. We just don’t let it define us.
TM:We define ourselves.
GS:Drew, you mentioned before about growing up with a lot of expectations and feeling unable to be yourself. How has that affected your way of parenting?
DM:It taught me how not to be. I want my kids to know they can tell me anything about themselves and their dreams and that I’ll support them.
GS:Does your son have an interest in cars?
TM:Calling it an interest would be an understatement.
DM:Travis loves cars and driving. We just got him his first car.
GS:Make and model?
DM:Guess.
GS:I’m going to say a Mustang of some sort.
TM:If you had gotten that wrong, Em, I would have questioned your journalistic instincts.
GS:Well, Drew is endorsed by Ford. Did they send over a car for him?
DM & TM in unison:Hells no.
DM:If he wants a car, he has to earn it.
GS:So you’re making him pay for it?
TM:We’re making him build it.
GS:Build it!
DM:Technically, restore it. We found a 1970 Mach 1 that has seen better days, so he’s going to have to put in a lot of elbow grease to get it road-ready.
TM:A good driver knows what’s under his hood and how to handle it.
GS:You’re helping him restore it?